BBS dial in numbers

[HighlandeR]

Ok I just signed up with BBS on Monday, finaly getting too use the service!

Im gonna make that 25 quids worth even if it kills me:)

But Ive noticed some users saying BBS dial in numbers, im only aware of just the one 0800 dial up number though.

Are there other 0800 numbers?

Since I was only given the one number by BBS, but I have spotted some saying, I tried all the BBS numbers too dial in but none work... or similar stuff.

Any ideas on the other numbers?

[Columbus]

"Im gonna make that 25 quids worth even if it kills me"

"Are there other 0800 numbers?"

I hope that you're not looking for ways to abuse the service, and hence spoil it for everyone else.

[Paul B]

Originally posted by Columbus
"Im gonna make that 25 quids worth even if it kills me"

"Are there other 0800 numbers?"

I hope that you're not looking for ways to abuse the service, and hence spoil it for everyone else.

Now that is a novel comment - how can U abuse an unlimited FREE service after you have paid your money?????????

[TNT]

Here they are:

0800 169 5801 - original and probably the best
0800 169 6712
0800 169 6713
0800 169 6716
0800 169 6717

I don't think that there is much difference between them, but I have found the original number to be most reliable at the time when new numbers were introduced (about 6 weeks ago).

[HighlandeR]

thx TNT for those numbers.

As for Abusing the service, Im not no 14 year old punk:)

I actually have something called respect, and would not do such a thing, I only mean that im gonna get my 25 quids worth of service as in, im going too use it for this week and im sure the amount of hours I logg on will be more then 25 quid, accept it will be free due too 0800:)

[Columbus]

Without taking this supposed latest upgrade into account, BBS clearly have fewer working ports than they do modems. During the day there is not too much of a problem (we all seem to agree), but in the evening I think we all need to be more responsible about this. It is difficult connecting in the evening because people are getting connected earlier on and then holding onto that line all evening. If people dropped the line when they finished using it, I think we will all find a much better service in the evening.

I think we all agree too that BBS cannot go on forever with their current level of pricing and the need for repeated upgrades. If we were all a bit more responsible we could help BBS with their current costs and enjoy the service for a bit longer.

[Sean.Evans]

Hear Hear!

[HighlandeR]

Watch how fast I disconnect during the evenings :)

Joke, I know this is the prob but no one bothers too get off BBS during the evenings... and the prob is the evenings are the most peak net times, im content on going back online later on like 9-10ish, but I doubt anyones gonna disconnect even if they arent doing anything.

Half these people dont even switch off there PC they just stay online downloadings goodness knows, one guy said I gotta stay on for my porn:)

Bah... one day broadband...

[ProDave]

You're some sad people here if you need to hog a permanent connection all night, even if you are not doing anything. It's people like you that will ensure that BBS does eventually fail. I hope you will feel proud when this happens.

There are others (like me) that only use the internet when they have a specific need to do so, and disconnect as soon as they are finished. If we were all like this then things would be better for us all.

Anyone who say's "I doubt anyones gonna disconnect even if they arent doing anything" shows how much you know about people.

I only stay connected while I am doing something. Sometimes maybee an hour, more usually half an hour, and often just 5 minutes to pick up and send email.

So come on, stop being so selfish, and give BBS a chance.

[Paul James]

Originally posted by Paul B
Now that is a novel comment - how can U abuse an unlimited FREE service after you have paid your money?????????

I know that you are aware that TFI kicked off many people for abusing the system. But perhaps you are just teasing about the word FREE?

[Rainbow Warrior]

It should be fairly easy to stop people using web/ftp servers and leaving their PCs connected all the time.

All their network administrator has to do is to disable the ftp/web server ports. Unfortunately, if they don't do it properly, we will all suffer. They should also be able to see how everyone is using their service (it should be in their server logs), and identify those users who may be abusing it.

From their latest T & Cs
"5). Operating server-based games, Internet servers or streaming content of any kind is prohibited on the Service.
"

As mentioned previously, those who signed up to the original T & Cs are probably OK, and should be in the minority by now :p

[mac_p300]

Whose T&C's are you quoting there?
BBS or TFI?

[Rainbow Warrior]

BigBlueSky's T &Cs - http://www.bigbluesky.uk.net/tandc.php

Also, "8). Any attempt to circumvent the activity limitations on the Service while using 0800 is strictly prohibited and will result in immediate termination of the Agreement.", so pinging and similar type activity is technically in breach of these terms.

The line which gives them the ability to change the terms at will is, "23). The Company may for operational reasons, vary the technical specification of the Service from time to time."

The new terms came into effect around 16th March 2001.

The original T & Cs didn't mention anything like what's there now.

[iec]

So - does that mean that those under the original terms and conditions are exempt from the new ones, and any subsequent releases?

Has the message board host been changed - I couldn't login with my old details - had to make a new account. :-(

Regards,

iec

[TNT]

In theory - yes. Original T&C's were a real joke and would fit on a half of printed page. No mention of service limitations, T&C updates etc. But you would have hard time quoting them in your defence in practice.

Best thing to do is to stick to current guidelines. They are quite reasonable.

[JohnRound]

Originally posted by HighlandeR
one guy said I gotta stay on for my porn:)


Isn't that breaking the TOS? I'm sure it said something about porn somewhere...

[HighlandeR]

erm dunno about porn, I mean most of the internet is porn anyhow:)

Im postive alot of people out there are just leeching mp3s from WinMX, I occasionaly do a few songs but thats all, some of my freinds just leave the PC on downloading songs from WinMX.

Same goes for demos/porn.

I do wish BBS had a 2-3 hour cut off so it would cut off these people just staying connected all day/night long.

:D

[Rainbow Warrior]

Porno is prohibited:

"16). Unlawful usage.
Users agree not to use the Service to transmit or receive any material that is:-
a) illegal, or in breach of copyright or other intellectual property rights belonging to a third party
b) judged to be threatening, defamatory, obscene, blasphemous, pornographic, racist or otherwise likely to cause offence
c) protected by trade secret or
d) which would contravene the laws of the United Kingdom (which, without prejudice to the generality of the foregoing, shall specifically include conduct contrary to the Computer Misuse Act 1990 or the Telecommunications Act 1984), or the lawful requirements of any existing or future regulatory body, or the laws of any other country or territory."

I suppose mp3s come under 16.a)

How do you know that BBS isn't the secret arm of our Boys in Blue ?
Big Brother is watching you ;)

[Paul B]

Originally posted by HighlandeR
I do wish BBS had a 2-3 hour cut off so it would cut off these people just staying connected all day/night long.

:D

They have paid for unmetered 24hours a day seven days a week service, why shouldn't they stay connected for as long as they want?

An idle cut off of say 15mins would be good then a line gets cut off if there is no activity but to just set an auto cut-off is preventative. A lot of stuff on the net now requires more than 2 or 3 hours to download on a 56k modem, drop the line every couple of hours and they'd never get downloaded.

[Paul James]

Regarding the 2-hour cut off, I think this is a good idea. Some people will always find ways of circumventing the 15-minute inactivity rule (whatever the rules say) and a 2-hour cut off would free the service for others. The downloading problem can be overcome by subscribing to GetRight or a similar programme.

[JohnRound]

I moved away from the other ISP's to stop the cut off period!

[TNT]

8). Any attempt to circumvent the activity limitations on the Service while using 0800 is strictly prohibited and will result in immediate termination of the Agreement.

How stupid can you get. Even if it wasn't a reason for being booted, why, on Earth, would you want to stay connected to the ISP when you are not using the connection? :confused: Is it so hard to wait a few seconds for DUN to dial and establish a connection when you do need it again? Paul B, BBS HAS 15 minute inactivity cut-off in force. As you say, it is a good thing and should be respected and not avoided.

GetRight, Go!Zilla etc. can resume some but not all downloads. It will depend on the server you are downloading from. Introducing automatic cut-off will not free anything for anybody. Designed to stop kids playing games for hours on end it is a real nuisance for people doing serious work on the Net.

[HighlandeR]

I think BBS would put anything down in the contract...

They would proberly ban online gaming and mp3s and the entire internet just too get net surfers too not do any of the heavy duty connection stuff.

But just above every ISP says this under there contract anyhow.

And just what are you gonna do with BBS ? go too www.gardening.com
and see some shrubs u might fancy buying:)

The Internet is made up of porn/mp3s anyhow!

And I doubt none of BBS surfers arent actually into that!

As for the 2 hour connection definatly its a must, I know people have paid for a 24/7 connection but the 2 hour disconnection will cut them off regardless of what there doing. This will free up tons and tons of lines and give a much better connectivity for us all.

[Paul James]

We had the discussion about mp3s on the TFI Support Group. I seem to remember that listening to mp3s on line is defined as "streaming", which was formerly forbidden by TFI and still forbidden by BBS; but it is NOT forbidden to download them, so long as copyright is not infringed. For example, mp3.com give away a lot of short mp3 extracts, and it is OK to download these. I don't know about Napster. Others may comment. (TFI have now lifted the ruling about streaming.)

[Strayaway]

Well said ProDave, I'm new to all this but selfishness does seem to abound in some areas, according to some of the comments and reading between the lines. I personally feel extremely gratefull to BBS for giving me the opportunity to experience the freedom of a 24/7 connection for a fixed one off fee,[my present financial curcumstances don't allow for anymore regular outgoings.] As my circumstances change [and I'm working on it], I hope I will be able to meet any increased charges BBS come up with in order for them to survive. I feel a sense of loyalty to them, both for having a go and for giving people like me a chance to participate in what is the biggest revolution in communication and networking the world has ever seen. I may be naive but it distresses me to think that the service might eventually go down due to exploitation by a few, at the expense of the many.
There is so much cameraderie among the internet communities I've found and I hope this is the spirit that prevails and is extended to include the hardworking people at BBS :cool: