File-sharing is very much alive!

[druid]

With out wishing to stir up a hornets nest, can I just say that IMHO the RIAA certainly have not really scared too many people away from file sharing, I have just loaded up Kazaalite K++ on my new PC and on connecting found 4,197,715 users sharing 740,798,206 files, I did D/l one file to try it out and I must say I am very impressed with the lite version.

Just off to hide and boil my head :rolleyes: :eek:

[druid]

Bugg@r, trust Scots to be about just as I posted this, If I had know I would have waited till he was in the land of 'nod' :eek: :eek: :eek:

[TheScotsman]

Can you see the looks of utter contempt on our faces?
Signed........ Richy, Alastair and Scots :mad:


(How can we get a smiley that does contempt?;)

[John]

I hate Kazaa and its varients and i aint kidding, i tried it once and deleted it, its shite :lol. Bring back Napster :(

[druid]

I thought that you had gone into Hibernation and it was safe to post, but you are always 'lurking' around!:lol :eek: :lol

[druid]

Originally posted by John
I hate Kazaa and its varients and i aint kidding, i tried it once and deleted it, its shite :lol. Bring back Napster :(

Whats wrong with it? Napster will still work with Napigator but it is not (IMHO) a patch on Kazaalite and it's variations! It does not resume for one thing.

Have you tried Kazaalite K++ (no spyware)

[Snuffs99]

i use IRC meself ;)

[ormus]

i can see the headlines now. fbi raid bradford and eccles.

edit.

and gloucestershire.

[Paul]

john, if kazaa is not for you try shareaza.

[John]

Originally posted by druid
Whats wrong with it? Napster will still work with Napigator but it is not (IMHO) a patch on Kazaalite and it's variations! It does not resume for one thing.

Have you tried Kazaalite K++ (no spyware)

Nowt i suppose mate, i personly didnt like it but it look like a few others do :lol

I'm just harking back to the halcyon days of Napster thats all :) BTW how can napster still work if the central server is history?

[Snuffs99]

Originally posted by ormus
i can see the headlines now. fbi raid bradford and eccles.

Its funny u should say something like that, the only reason people like me get caught is because people like u tell EVERYONE where i am.

:p :naughty :moon

[ormus]

no names no kit bag.

[Snuffs99]

Not a total grass then? :D :D

[ormus]

well im not in the FBI, but even i can see one of us lives in gloucestershire.

[Snuffs99]

;) :D ;)

[SpaceAgent]

"How can we get a smiley that does contempt?"

Even if we can't we can feel good inside that we aren't the sort of people that obey laws only when it suits us and are prepared to steal anything we can get otherwise :)

[sentup.custard]

Well, druid says he lives in Gloucestershire - but has Net4BigNowtBrother been round to check?

It could be a cunning plot to throw the FBI off the scent - while they are scaling Leckhampton Chimney (think that's what it's called) to get a decent vantage point, he's really in a bedsit in Liverpool laughing his head off!

[SpaceAgent]

Hey, Leckhampton is just down the road from me.

Who's chimney are you climbing? :lol

[John]

Originally posted by sentup.custard
Well, druid says he lives in Gloucestershire - but has Net4BigNowtBrother been round to check?

It could be a cunning plot to throw the FBI off the scent - while they are scaling Leckhampton Chimney (think that's what it's called) to get a decent vantage point, he's really in a bedsit in Liverpool laughing his head off!

I coulnt give a shite where he is, i'd stand up and defend him. I have met some rank bad people in my time and so far Druid is a class above that lot. He's allreet get off his back.

[druid]

Originally posted by SpaceAgent
"How can we get a smiley that does contempt?"

Even if we can't we can feel good inside that we aren't the sort of people that obey laws only when it suits us and are prepared to steal anything we can get otherwise :)

Err excuse me! I think you owe me an apology, who said I stole something? For your information I d/l a pdf file and as you don't know what the file was how can you imply that I am a Thief?
I always thought that in this country one was presumed innocent unless proven guilty! :confused:

[druid]

Originally posted by John
I coulnt give a shite where he is, i'd stand up and defend him. I have met some rank bad people in my time and so far Druid is a class above that lot. He's allreet get off his back.

You are too kind! But I really am bad!:lol

[SpaceAgent]

If all you have ever downloaded Druid is copyright-free PDFs then you don't belong in the group that I described, the overwhelming magority I fear :(

As for innocent until proven guilty, many here have bragged of having broken this law.

[druid]

Originally posted by SpaceAgent
If all you have ever downloaded Druid is copyright-free PDFs then you don't belong in the group that I described, the overwhelming magority I fear :(

As for innocent until proven guilty, many here have bragged of having broken this law.

Don't get me wrong I am not lilly-white but in the last few months I have only used file-sharing to d/l a few pdfs about Photoshop, many of which are freely available on the web.

Just because others have (in your words) 'Bragged' does not mean that I am automatically guilty!

[SpaceAgent]

Indeed, only those who have stolen copyrighted information against the wishes of the copyright holder are guilty.

I find it incredibly sad though that so many people fit in that category :(

[ormus]

i still think hes in a bedsit in knotty ash.

[sentup.custard]

Alastair, now you've got me all confuzzied. :eek: (OK - I know it's not difficult)

"Hey, Leckhampton is just down the road from me."

I thought you lived in the True Blue Wildlife Park, aka Bucks. The one I know is just south of Cheltenham, a suburb of it these days, really - it's the proper name of the "Chimney" that I wasn't sure of, not the name of the place.

Is there another Leckhampton that I'm unaware of, or are you thinking of Leckhampstead? :confused:

[druid]

Originally posted by ormus
i still think hes in a bedsit in knotty ash.

What with a big German shepherd dog?:eek:

[druid]

Originally posted by sentup.custard
Leckhampton Chimney (think that's what it's called)

It's actually called the 'Devils Chimney' but it is situated near Leckhampton, it's actually a bit of rock that was left after quarrying for stone many years ago!

http://tinyurl.com/tj7u

[ormus]

dont knock it until youve tried it.

[SpaceAgent]

"or are you thinking of Leckhampstead? "

********, you are right - too much booze :lol

[SpaceAgent]

That was B0ll0cks BTW :lol

[sentup.custard]

:lol

Oh well - it's a bit late in the day for using the old grey cells, so we'll let you off this time. ;)

Cheers, druid - that's the place I meant, been so long since I was there that I'd forgotten the proper name. :)

[Snuffs99]

Originally posted by SpaceAgent
Indeed, only those who have stolen copyrighted information against the wishes of the copyright holder are guilty.

I find it incredibly sad though that so many people fit in that category :(

EVERYONE fits into that category, lets face it everyone has copied something which is copyright protected and those who say they haven't are lying. :\

[SpaceAgent]

A very sweeping assertion. Got any proof, or do you just want it to be true for some bizarre reason?

[Mr-Mollywash]

Originally posted by John
BTW how can napster still work if the central server is history?

You can actually use the client my mate along with napigator ;)

[Snuffs99]

Originally posted by SpaceAgent
A very sweeping assertion. Got any proof, or do you just want it to be true for some bizarre reason?

OK let me put it another way.

There are those people who have copied protected materials and hold their hands up to it (not in court of law obviously), and there are those people who have copied protected materials and DON'T hold their hands up and say things like.

"i find it incredibly sad that so many people fit into that category"
;)

I am a hands up person meself and proud of it. :)

[SpaceAgent]

I wonder what exactly I think it is that I may have copied that I shouldn't?

[druid]

Originally posted by SpaceAgent
A very sweeping assertion. Got any proof, or do you just want it to be true for some bizarre reason?

TBF you did make a similar 'sweeping assertion' last night when I said that I had used Kazaalite!:eek: :)

[druid]

Originally posted by John
BTW how can napster still work if the central server is history?

John, I don't the tech details as to how but if you use Napigator it will load your original Napster 'browser' (I have version 7) and Napigator will give you a huge long list of servers, you then just click on a server to connect and use Napster as before. The list of servers includes the speed and number of users etc, if one won't connect you just choose another one, in use it is exactly like using the original Napster!

FWIW I still prefer Kazaalite though!:)

[SpaceAgent]

"TBF you did make a similar 'sweeping assertion' last night when I said that I had used Kazaalite!"

I never meant any of my comments to refer to you particularly mate.

[Richy]

Originally posted by Snuffs99
OK let me put it another way.

There are those people who have copied protected materials and hold their hands up to it (not in court of law obviously), and there are those people who have copied protected materials and DON'T hold their hands up and say things like.

"i find it incredibly sad that so many people fit into that category"
;)

I am a hands up person meself and proud of it. :)

Proud of theft, a very sad reflection on the state of (sub) humanity :(

[Yump]

Originally posted by SpaceAgent
I wonder what exactly I think it is that I may have copied that I shouldn't?
Hmmm . . . consider,over a 50 year period (give or take) :) . . .

photo-copied a document/magazine article perchance?

written (plagiarised) something without fully attributing ALL the sources of information?

used a radio in a workplace (where others could hear) without obtaining a licence from The Performing Rights Society?

[SpaceAgent]

50 years pretty exactly :lol

TBH I don't think I've done any of those things other than allowable use.

[noviceupgrader]

who cares about kazaa or shareaza, Bit torrent is the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rob

[druid]

Originally posted by SpaceAgent
TBH I don't think I've done any of those things other than allowable use.

No disrespect, but I reckon that you are unique! :) :eek:

[SpaceAgent]

"I reckon that you are unique!"

Recognition at last! :lol

[MTDay]

The only person I know who did not and would not have anything that wasn't 100% bought and paid for on their machine .... was the local vicar!

After all, if people were scrupulously honest about buying every bit of software, there wouldn't be so much effort put into protection, and prices would fall (oh yeah!).

And a more honest corollary to that - only those who don't TRY ever end up paying full price for software - I've got a good many "OEM" products, upgrade discounts etc.

Leave those full-priced products on the shelves for long enough, and they'll get the message ... As a recent Langalist mail said, do you REALLY need Office 2003, when an older version or the freeware Openoffice is probably more than enough!

[Snuffs99]

Originally posted by Richy
Proud of theft, a very sad reflection on the state of (sub) humanity :(

I'm not sayin that i am proud of theft, what i am saying is that i am proud of the fact that i can put my hands up and say that at some point or other in my lifetime i have whether knowingly or not copied protected materials, and if this means i am part of "sub" humanity then i am also proud of that. :) :p

[Richy]

sorry misread your post then :)

[Snuffs99]

Thats ok m8 i'll buy u a drink in the virtual pub. :)

[Richy]

haha long as you own the original ;)

[Snuffs99]

touche. :p

[easigo99]

"I reckon that you are unique!"

Naa, just another lying git :)

[druid]

TBH, If I were you I would remove your comment and hope that not too many have seen it!;)

[Snuffs99]

Originally posted by druid
TBH, If I were you I would remove your comment and hope that not too many have seen it!;)

who?

[druid]

Originally posted by Snuffs99
who?

The one that has just been posted by easigo99

[pudds]

I cant stand kazaa ,emule + sharereactor is download heaven, all your downloads verified and reviewed before you get them.
Of course i delete all my downloads within 12 seconds of downloading in order to not infringe copyright laws. I once left one on my hard drive for 14 seconds but i think i got away with it :)

[noviceupgrader]

Originally posted by pudds
I once left one on my hard drive for 14 seconds but i think i got away with it :)

Some people have all the luck:lol :lol :lol :lol

Rob

[MTDay]

If you've downloaded stuff and are feeling guilty, you could always send them back (http://www.sendthemback.org)!

[Snuffs99]

Originally posted by MTDay
If you've downloaded stuff and are feeling guilty, you could always send them back (http://www.sendthemback.org)!


Is it ok to do that after they have been put onto CD?
Hypothetical question obviously. ;)

[TheScotsman]

Originally posted by pudds
I once left one on my hard drive for 14 seconds but i think i got away with it :)

Beware, there is a large backlog of investigations, so you may NOT have got away with yet;)


Where the heck have you been anyway?

[pudds]

ive been around, its great to be back though :)

[Burnley HefCee]

Prefer WinMX (http://www.winmx.com/download/) Kazaa is absoulte shite & full of spyware, & that includes the "lite" version.

[druid]

Originally posted by Burnley HefCee
Kazaa is absoulte shite & full of spyware, & that includes the "lite" version.

Are you sure about this Dean? I was always let to believe that Kazaalite was spyware free! I used to use Kazaa lookalike Grokster and like Kazaa it did have spyware but it could easily be removed, I use Kazaalite now and I thought it was spyware free?:confused:

[pudds]

Srry but your all wrong, emule rules !

[KASH]

Originally posted by Burnley HefCee
Prefer WinMX (http://www.winmx.com/download/) Kazaa is absoulte shite & full of spyware, & that includes the "lite" version.


Urm, Kazaa lite is the spyware-free version, as Druid has mentioned! You must have downloaded a crap version has it is not easy to find the lite version (Kazaa threatened lawsuits against them etc).

[Burnley HefCee]

yep im 100% positive, i ran a check after id installed it & theres all sorts of shite in there. i downloaded it from here http://kazaalite.tk/

[silver]

Originally posted by Burnley HefCee
yep im 100% positive, i ran a check after id installed it & theres all sorts of shite in there. i downloaded it from here http://kazaalite.tk/

are you sure,. kazzalite should have no type of adbot / spyware stuff,. what it does have are spyware blanks - stubs that are named and look a bit like the spyware they are replacing (but they are not actual spyware themselves) - it's the trick that kazzalite uses to remove the spyware (well that's what it did do - I haven't checked recently)

Sil

[druid]

Originally posted by Burnley HefCee
yep im 100% positive,

According to all the info here http://www.slyck.com/index.php unless you d/l from a fake site is is spyware free!

[Snuffs99]

Originally posted by pudds
Srry but your all wrong, emule rules !

IRC my friend IRC, Overnet is made by the same people and even that is better than emule.

[silver]

I think emule does rock but then it all depends on what type of stuff you are after - there's not that much music on it for instance..

Sil

[goodnightirene]

Anyone else use soulseek - this is my fave.

Steve

[pudds]

I dont think emules too bad for music, ive even found some ape and shn files on there which you wouldnt get on kazaa it only knows mp3's.

[noviceupgrader]

Originally posted by goodnightirene
Anyone else use soulseek - this is my fave.

Steve

Deffo the best !!!!!!!!!!!

Rob

[druid]

Originally posted by pudds
ive even found some ape and shn files on there

What are they?

[pudds]

They are another compression format like mp3 only there lossless so you dont lose any quality. Download them, convert to wave and you have an exact 1 to 1 copy.