Dell brings back XP on home systems

[John]

http://news.com.com/2100-1046_3-6177619.html?part=rss&tag=2547-1_3-0-5&subj=news

My brother bought a new Laptop the day before yesterday and he also went for XP.

[Gina]

Interesting! :)

[Geoffw]

Well I've been using Vista on my laptop for three weeks now, and the system is rock solid and working very well.

Only one application is unhappy (Adobe Elements 4), but even that seems to works if you ignore the start-up warning (Aero switched off while it is active). Getting to know the Desktop etc is a bit of a challenge, but the more I get to know it the more I like it.

I would have thought buying a new system without the latest OS seem a touch cock-eyed to me. Especially when a later upgrade will be so expensive.

[shazam100]

Well I've been using Vista on my laptop for three weeks now, and the system is rock solid and working very well.

Only one application is unhappy (Adobe Elements 4), but even that seems to works if you ignore the start-up warning (Aero switched off while it is active). Getting to know the Desktop etc is a bit of a challenge, but the more I get to know it the more I like it.

I would have thought buying a new system without the latest OS seem a touch cock-eyed to me. Especially when a later upgrade will be so expensive.

I'm left wondering just how much longer 'Pearly' gates can foist various incarnations of his monopolistic OS onto folks, and just when Linux will become user friendly enough to give him real grief.....I look forward to it !

[Tony]

I'm left wondering just how much longer 'Pearly' gates can foist various incarnations of his monopolistic OS onto folks

how is he foisting anything - he brings something to the market place and people buy if they want to - ok he spends vast amounts of money tempting potential customers to do so but they have a choice - in fact many choices - no one insists they buy anything

no different to any other consumer product

[Doctor Snuggles]

how is he foisting anything - he brings something to the market place and people buy if they want to - ok he spends vast amounts of money tempting potential customers to do so but they have a choice - in fact many choices - no one insists they buy anything

no different to any other consumer product

Ok then I go to pcworld and want to buy a new pc. I say I want windows Xp preinstalled and they say "sorry sir, we dont sell pc's with windows xp anymore", where's the choice there then?

Assuming you altready have a pc then yes, you do have a choice if you want to upgrade.

[Tony]

Ok then I go to pcworld and want to buy a new pc.

choice

go somewhere else

[John]

What choice :lol M$ is pulling all OEM version of XP, my brother bought a laptop from CCL 2 days ago and they had a single modle in stock with XP on it (and without any doing on my part) he bought that one for that reason alone.

[Tony]

then go somewhere else but ccl or pc world

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/?gclid=CI-Y7-6604sCFSInEAodaRNEWQ

there is always choice - just search on the link above - there are loads with XP

Dell will sell without an OS if you insist as i think will most other manufactures

a quick search on Goggle found plenty of people selling XP

but going that way does not make the 'lets knock M$ and all they do' brigade happy

strange how XP is now acceptable

it was the spawn of the devil - but times change

[Doctor Snuggles]

then go somewhere else but ccl or pc world

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/?gclid=CI-Y7-6604sCFSInEAodaRNEWQ

there is always choice - just search on the link above - there are loads with XP


Repeat your search in six months, see how much choice you have then

Dell will sell without an OS if you insist as i think will most other manufactures

Then go out and try and find a copy of windows XP with a COA, when Microsoft have stopped shipping it.

but going that way does not make the 'lets knock M$ and all they do' brigade happy

I'm not Knocking M$, just their assumption that everyone who buys a new PC wants their latest offering.

I teach pensioners how to use windows Xp, they now find when they want to buy themselves a pc, they are forced to accept windows vista because the mainstream retailers they are likely to buy from have abandoned XP and they have to start the learning process all over again. Quite a daunting prospect if your in your 70s

strange how XP is now acceptable

it was the spawn of the devil - but times change

Xp is now acceptable because after 2 service packs and hundreds of other "fixes" it is actually a very stable o/s.

Vista will likely be the "spawn of the devil" until it's been patched several times.

FWIW I run a mobile pc repair business, and the amount of callouts to vista equipped pc's, that are blue screening all the time is concerning.

[Tony]

FWIW I run a mobile pc repair business, and the amount of callouts to vista equipped pc's, that are blue screening all the time is concerning.

good for business then or do you do it all for free

not had a blue screen with Vista and i chuck all sorts of crap at it, but surely the question is why are they blue screening - nothing to do with the users i suppose - some people would feck anything

as to the rest of your comments - whatever - you can buy what you want - all OS's are still available - maybe not from pc world but if you want to run it i can be bought - there will always be a supply where there is a demand - and i am not suggesting pirate stuff - thats another subject

[Geoffw]

Vista will likely be the "spawn of the devil" until it's been patched several times.

FWIW I run a mobile pc repair business, and the amount of callouts to vista equipped pc's, that are blue screening all the time is concerning.
I've yet to face a 'blue screen'!

[Gina]

I thought blue screens were a thing of the past once we'd stopped using Win98se. Can't remember when I last had one. I find it hard to believe Vista produces blue screens.

[Doctor Snuggles]

good for business then or do you do it all for free

Er no, do you work for free geez! :eek:

Fyi I have been assembling and repairing computers since the 286 Days way back in 1989, and fully conversant with all flavours of M$ o/s and a network specialist somehow I think i'm adequately qualified to comment on my findings so far of Vista.

not had a blue screen with Vista and i chuck all sorts of crap at it, but surely the question is why are they blue screening - nothing to do with the users i suppose - some people would feck anything

Yer don't work for M$ do you? Blame the users?

Ok, your the lucky one then, as your fond of google why not do a search on "vista blue screens" and see what that throws up.

By the way you are right it's great for business, I'm laughing all the way to the bank. :lol

[Geoffw]

http://www.thehumorarchives.com/attachment/451/412-windows-vista.jpg
http://www.thehumorarchives.com/joke/Windows_Vista_BSOD

[SpaceAgent]

Any OS can blue-screen or it's equivalent - it's the last resort after suffering a hardware error or a code error at ring 0. A hardware error could occur whatever the OS and a ring 0 error in a driver shouldn't happen on a modern Vista-tested PC.

FWIW we've yet to see a blue-screen or anything like it in Vista (supporting a couple of hundred Vista PCs so far). I'm not convinced by all aspects of the interface yet, but in terms of stability it's rock-solid.

[Tony]

Er no, do you work for free geez!

yes

[onomatopoeia]

not had a blue screen with Vista and i chuck all sorts of crap at it, but surely the question is why are they blue screening - nothing to do with the users i suppose - some people would feck anything


A BSOD should never occur as a result of user error, if that happens it's a sign of a rubbish OS.

I've not had a software caused BSOD with Vista, or XP or 2000, I have had hardware (overheating) related ones. The last MS OS that regularly gave me BSODs was NT4.0. I wont talk about the MS-DOS kernel "Windows" operating systems, which were fine as long as you didn't want to do anything.

I've got a Vista box on my desk, it's running the basic UI and I have to keep UAC on for compatibility testing, as a lot of our end users run in corporate environments where UAC will be imposed. It doesn't crash but

IT DRIVES ME NUTS.

[Freeworld]

http://news.com.com/2100-1046_3-6177619.html?part=rss&tag=2547-1_3-0-5&subj=news

My brother bought a new Laptop the day before yesterday and he also went for XP.

I've do the same too! It's going to be a long while until switch to Vista... if I do switch away from xp it'll be ubuntu where I'll be off to.